Live Workshop – Wine Bottle Photography

As a commercial photographer Karl specialises in product photography and in this live product photography workshop, where he shoots a bottle of red wine, he shares a host of useful techniques that can be applied to the genre as a whole.

In this show he demonstrates multiple lighting setups to achieve a variety of different shots, explaining the modifiers, background choices, lighting considerations and post production requirements for each.

You can follow step by step as he reveals the gradual process of achieving the perfect product photograph of a bottle of red wine.

In this live photography workshop we cover the following:

  • Product photography: How to photograph wine bottles
  • Product photography tips
  • Lighting modifiers for product photography
  • Rim lighting techniques
  • How to control reflections in bottles
  • Working with composite images
  • Correcting image distortion
  • Photographing using colored gels

If you’d like more on product photography, make sure to visit our Product section.

If you have any questions regarding this workshop post them in the comments section below ?

Comments

  1. hey Karl,

    At the minute : 24:44 of this video, your picolite reflects on the bottle. That happened to me when i was trying to use the snoot and I couldn’t get that headache away. Any solution?
    thanksssss

    1. Hi, a snoot will unfortunately stand out much more strongly as a reflection on a bottle than a projection attachment. The simple trick is to retouch the dot of light afterwards.

  2. I’m always amazed how easy you make things look!

    This is a great class! I can’t say that you’ve given a bad one to be honest! I used to be a member of Kelbyone training and I haven’t looked back since my swap!

    You have helped me grow as a Photographer.

  3. Absolutely brilliant, Karl. I’ve used this technique multiple times on dark bottles/objects and it works every time. Thank you so much for sharing your experience, your passion and your expertise! Love that passion!

  4. Hello Karl,
    I built a big diffuser with savage translum and a wooden frame. Is it possible that the color of the wood frame affects my color temperature and makes it more yellow, warmer? If so, what face of the diffuser produces this effect: the one that touches the focus or the one that touches the bottle. (On the other side I also have a softox). Do I have to paint the white or black wood? Thank you so much!

    1. Hi I’d be very surprised if the wooden frame has any affect. It’s most likely the colour of the Savage translum? You could try putting black tape over your wooden frame though to check.

    1. Hi Jens, if you look at the image on screen at 1:12:28 it is slightly different at this point. If we examine the image shown on the page let’s break down where the differences could come from. First let’s start with the left side of the image and the bigger softbox, on the image at 1:12:28 the light is going all the way to the back of the bottle so the physics dictates that the light was further behind/back than in the shot shown, also in the shot shown below the video the light is more curving around the front of the bottle and label, so the same softbox is uses and diffusion they are just closer to the camera and slightly more in-front of the bottle. The same applies to the one on the right but I would also say that it is closer to the bottle as the reflection looks bigger. The wooden base is darker but that was simply darkened in post production. When the show finished, I looked at the shot with fresh eyes and without the distractions of presenting and shooting and then I decided to try both lights forwards a little to separate the reflections from the back sides of the bottle or alternatively I may have simply moved the bottle back a little further and lowered my shooting height a little, other than that the set up is the same. Neither one is necessarily preferable over the other it is simply choice on how you feel about it at the time. Cheers Karl.

      1. Hi Karl,
        thank you very much for your detailed answer and thoughts on that – that’s very helpful! Also you left the red color on the right side away.
        It’s another good example of the importance of the so called fresh eyes.

        (I guess the final image we look at here is shown at 1:32:28, if anyone wants to take a look again.)

  5. superb tutorial Karl, thoroughly enjoyed it. Appreciate the way you teach, clear, concise you explain why it’s best to set lights up in the right way and the wrong way and seeing the results competes the jigsaw, will watch it again, thank you.

    Kevin

  6. Hi Karl, I have just one question. The reflection on the left hand side gets a bit rounded when it hits the label. I guess the reflection was selected and blured in photoshop and because there was a corner it got this rounded and doesen’t continue straight up. Is it for purpouse or a mistake? Thanks

        1. Hi Stepan, on my file I can see the top one but not the bottom. It may be your monitor not resolving all the tones on the top one. My guess would be that the scrim roll had curved away, this sometimes happens when it is not on a frame and it is just hanging on the roll from a grip arm. Thanks for pointing it out as I hadn’t noticed it before.

          1. Good morning Karl, thanks for your reply.

            I can see it correctly on my eizo There is a slight light fall of right under the label as well. At first I thought it was both caused by selecting and bluring the reflection but when I took a closer look I could see that on the top it’s the reflection itself that is not straight and on the bottom it’s probably some shadow from the label(it’s almost unnoticable but still can see it there…) anyway the question is whether it should be retouched to absolute technical perfection or just left more natural like this… Thanks for your time. I really like content of this website and it does’t cost an arm and leg 🙂

          2. Hi Stepan, as explained I think it was caused from the diffusion material curling away and yes it should have been corrected or retouched. I haven’t checked the image on my Eizo only on my website on my macbook so I’ll sort it out when I get a chance. Glad you are enjoying KTE! 🙂

        2. I just had a closer look and compared the final image with images in video and it’s something different… just forget what I said 🙂

  7. Hi Karl,

    I have seen this tutorial twice already and each time I feel I get something new. Outstanding!!
    Could you achieve similar results using a 140 cm octobox and a speed light? I am afraid that is the extent of my budget now.

    Cheers,
    Jorge.

    1. Hi Jorge, as long as the speed light spreads well in the softbox then they work fine, the soft box must have an internal diffuser.

  8. Hi Karl, I went from having no idea about photographing bottles to being keen to have a go. I feel I’ve learnt a lot. Thank you.
    So I grabbed from the wine cellar (ha!) – it came with a highly silvered badge. This caused me no end of problems. I guess the problems would exist with many bottles that have reflective text/graphics…
    I tried to take several shots with a view to blending in PS, but even with many different attempts with different lights and diffusion modifiers, I still could not evenly illuminate the silver badge. My guess would be that silver writing would be harder still.
    Perhaps I could try a dulling spray, but this would have to be very targeted. Would it be possible ?
    Do you have any tips that might help, please, or is it just down to experimenting more with the lighting ?
    Thanks for putting together this valuable resource.

    1. Hi Barry, find the live whisky shoot with shiny label and you will get some good tips from that and also the recent one on pack shots I had to contend with shiny labels on some cosmetic bottles, you should find them all in the live shows replays section. Cheers Karl.

      1. Thanks for a quick, reply, Karl.

        I’ll take a look. I’ve only recently joined and have not yet worked through many courses. I’m trying to emulate your methods with smaller scale, continuous LED lighting. The journey begins …

  9. Hi Karl. Thank you for this wonderful tutorial.
    But I did not understand how to use that color palette.
    Have you a tutorial for that?
    Thanks!

    1. Hi Micaela, we’ve had a few people asking about that so I’m going to produce a tutorial on that soon. Thanks Karl.

  10. Can’t stress enough how much your shows and education program has been a breath of fresh air. So much knowledge is passed on, very clear to follow, and the techniques to get the results are amazing, could have spent hundreds on books and still wouldn’t get the education I do from your courses. Keep em coming, I am hooked 🙂

  11. Thanks Karl, I was even thinking of using my old Bron light brush just to light the label.
    I’m enjoying your monthly workshops-thanks!

  12. Hi Karl
    When you didn’t own Bron and a pico light how would you have lit the label with basic elinchrom lights please.

    I’ve got snoots etc and even the Elinchrom Zoom 12 degrees to 24 degrees.

    Thanks

    Elizabeth

    1. Hi Elizabeth, I would have used a couple of grids in front of the snoot. Or I would have constructed a really tight snoot out of cardboard and wrapped it around the actual snoot to make the tightest circle possible and then messed around moving it backwards and forwards to get the right size.

      1. Hi Karl,

        In response to this answer to Elizabeth’s question would barn doors work at all?

        Thanks Craig

        1. Hi Craig do you mean about lighting the label. If so then the answer is no, barn doors will not work for this. See duck food chapter for tips.

  13. Thank you for sharing your knowledge you really do great job!I am very new member to your education community and also new photographer (2 years old).I would like to ask if soften so much the edges of light does create banding effect because in some shoots i saw this effect and if that wasn’t my monitor fault because i saw this lesson on my laptop how do you handle that?

    Thanks in advanced for your time!

    1. Hi Giorgos, Thank you for your kind words. In answer to your question we should never compromise our lighting because we are worried about resulting banding in gradations otherwise we would be unable to create a number of beautiful lit situations from glossy objects to graduated backgrounds. Banding is not really an issue if your work flow is correct. 1. A high quality sensor in 14bit-16bit, 2. A high dynamic range of a sensor. 3. Shooting in RAW mode and then exporting and working in 16bit image files. 4 and following my procedures for removing any banding as demonstrated in my ‘Post Production’ modules. It may be that a low quality monitor or a bad printer shows banding but that doesn’t always mean it is actually there. Cheers Karl.

  14. I missed the live show, but your show is just amazing as I can watch again and again and learn more and more. I am thinking in going into product photography and this will help me a lot. and $14 is just nothing of what we are getting in return.

  15. Definitely your best live show so far. Product photography is where you shine and I learnt a lot from you through the years. Thank you Master for this great learning platform and for sharing your technique. Much appreciated.

  16. Hi Karl,
    Couple of questions for you:
    1) at about 6:30 you place the bottle right at the end. Why is this placement so specific?
    2) what is the purpose of the black card behind the bottle in the initial setup?

    Will potentially follow up with more Iater.

    1. Hi Kryn, did you have your sound on for this video as those things were explained, maybe I’ve misunderstood your question but certainly the purpose of the black card was made clear as that was the whole purpose of that demonstration? The reason the bottle was so close to the back edge to ensure the maximum light wrap around. At the very start I also explained how it could be done with more lights from the side and top but obviously the technique I demonstrated only needed one light.

      1. Ya, I wrote the question down before continuing watching it. At several points you did indeed provide several statements that explained the use of the template.
        From what I got: it allows even wraparound of light around the bottle, it provides a means to create a black background whilst still having that wraparound using a single strobe, and if shooting light through the bottle that’d just look weird. Did I understand that correctly ?

        There’s a LOT of good info in there, so I’ll probably go back a few more times.

    2. Another question I have is related to the size of the modifiers you use.
      In this tutorial you use your largest softbox and huge reflector panels. The strip lights aren’t the smallest either.
      Is there a specific reason why you use the biggest ones available, or could we do with something smaller?
      How could people with small work spaces handle this?

      1. Hi Kryn, the unfortunate thing with wine bottles from a photography point of view is that they are tall, they have a shoulder and they round, all of these things mean that a huge amount of surrounding area is reflected back into the bottle. The only way to over come this is to have something very big and/or close to the subject to reduce the angle of incidence for any other reflections. The cheapest way is to use large scrim rolls as I was doing and then you can put smaller softboxes into these. Or use a white wall or use a method similar to the ‘kettle’ shot in the ‘product’ section.

  17. Hey Karl,

    I love what you are doing, I would be glad to spread the word about this new major Learning source for Still Life Photographers.

    Let me know how I can help.

    1. Hi Keith, glad you enjoyed this live show. The minimal post requirement for a shoot like this are covered in our post production section. We’ve also just released a new product shoot in ‘product’ product extras section that is the shoot and post work which you might enjoy. Cheers Karl.

  18. Karl,
    Watched this after the fact but this helped me out greatly. I’m certainly looking forward to the upcoming product tutorials.

    Thanks.

  19. Thanks for the quick upload, once again I missed the ‘live show’. I am getting into product photography and this was an eye opener of the little inexpensive tricks to play with light to change the outcome of the picture. All at $14 a month, you would have to be a fool to think you are not getting value for money.

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